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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.02.06 17:23:00 -
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Indeed it will be fun to watch.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 18:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Clurk Brodon
Bah, no worry. Even if the ferrogel market is on the brink of collapse, fermionic condensate is 100% safe, right?
I'm smelling market manipulation now. Not in Jita, this thread.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Clurk Brodon
Just watch and enjoy the show.
Benvie may have responded to you with his knowledge but I'm going to go a step further indeed. Why? Because I hate a bald face liar that doesn't know when his bluff is that is stinking, not the hand he's trying to play.
Don't play me in poker.
I'll own you there too.
The Real Ferrogel-Jita Market
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Posted - 2008.02.06 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
The Real Ferrogel-Jita Market
BTW that, I should've pointed out, is another one of my excel spreadsheets with some charting. I do not know if it will open for OpenOffice or any other spreadsheet application.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Myrdyr
Shar's spreadsheet isn't accurate though. There is something in the price history that truncates peak values -- I don't know if it's a requisite volume necessary or what, but Ferrogel definitely was above 30k/unit January 19th/20th; I have the wallet data to prove it, though I wasn't the cause, just piggybacking on someone else's market manipulation.
It is the average transaction price, not the highest transaction price. Yes, there were occasional sales that high but those are not indicators of market movement. However, don't take my word for it. Actually go and check it yourself. You will find the data to be quite accurate.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 20:17:00 -
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And, as I've always said regarding this, outliers do not a market make. Great when you can get the occasional super sale but again does not a market make. (And the outliers in my experience, from testing, is more inclusive than exclusive.)
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Posted - 2008.02.06 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Myrdyr
Why do you think Shar's charts show such nice curves rather than seeing some jagged spikes? There should be spikes according to which days ferrogel saw peak-ish volume. My sample set, from a seller's viewpoint, looks like this:
Actually the nice curve is from trending and standardization. For analysis such techniques are used to demonstrate... well trends. It is not designed to demonstrate unique instances. (This is not to sound condescending btw) Outliers are unique instances that can be used to jigger the market. I know as I've done it a number of times. It is still possible to do this but you have to do it so that it happens under the outlier range. (It's mostly a matter of volume.) But the end result is this, while you may point out that my numbers are not all the numbers in play (that there can be even higher numbers going on), the charts and data presented is accurate enough to refute the bullcrap that the OP was saying to start with. That I think we can all agree with... except the OP.
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